Gelöschtes P5DX Statement

  • Da N6PSE sein interessantes Statement vom 25.4.2016 zur gestrichenen P5DX-Expedition wieder gelöscht hat (er hat sich inzwischen mit dem "Betroffenen" (N0UN) ausgesprochen), kopiere ich es hier mal für Archivzwecke herein.


    P5DX-what could have been….


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    This morning, I had to cancel a DXpedition. It was one of the
    hardest decisions of my life. It was not for lack of permission,
    it was not for lack of a team and equipment willing to go.


    The prospect of a P5 activation brings out the worst in this
    hobby. The posers, the nuts, the ill-informed and the
    opinionated. But in the end, it mostly came down to a
    surprising lack of support and lack of funding from some of the world’s
    paramount DX foundations when asked to fund grants to the world’s #1
    Most Wanted Entity.
    This is the story of P5DX.


    Throughout several years of ongoing negotiations, the North Koreans
    have told us that they have never before given permission for an amateur
    radio activity within the DPRK. Of course we don’t know if this
    is true or not as others have gone before us and have been approved for
    DXCC, but this is what we were told. We had hoped to be the first
    large DXpedition with clear and unambiguous proof that we were active
    within the country and with real evidence of permission. After
    tireless efforts, we finally had a letter of invitation in hand from
    DPRK authorities inviting us into the country as the first-ever large
    scale amateur radio event.


    In April, 2013, we informed the world of our “P5 Project”. We
    were making numerous visits to the DPRK and establishing real
    contacts. We were spending thousands of dollars of our family’s
    money shuttling back and forth from our homes to Pyongyang, and we
    wanted to give hope to the DX Community that an operation might actually
    take place.


    All told, we made nine visits to the DPRK. Despite several
    false leads, for the most part our efforts seemed pointless,
    unproductive and futile.


    Until recently, when we finally got our big break.


    As part of our P5 Project, we retained an expert in all things North
    Korea to work and lobby on our behalf. Our
    “Emissary” was very interested in our project and asked for no
    money from us. Our “Emissary” has strong relationships within the
    DPRK and regularly travels there.


    In February 2016, our Emissary contacted us while we were on the
    VP8STI/VP8SGI DXpedition. Our Emissary had been
    communicating with relevant DPRK officials and sensed a new willingness
    to consider our proposal.


    We renewed our proposal and the talks continued. When we
    returned home, we learned that we were very close to having complete
    permission. After a couple more months of back and forth
    negotiations, the DPRK agreed to a ten day amateur radio activity with
    three radios and up to 20 team members. A venue was investigated
    and approved.


    Like the 2012 7O6T Dxpedition, the DPRK officials wanted to showcase a
    new resort and offered it as a DXpedition location. Within a span
    of a few weeks our Emissary and one of our team leaders made a visit to
    Pyongyang to have face to face meetings with high level
    officials. These officials had been involved in Dennis Rodman’s
    visit as well as the just-completed Pyongyang marathon race. Now
    that the marathon was over, we had their full attention and
    cooperation. Things were moving fast.


    The DPRK officials stipulated that only three Americans could be on
    the team and no Japanese, but beyond that we were given the green light
    to begin assembling a team of varying nationalities from Europe, South
    America, and Oceania.


    The DPRK officials insisted on no publicity in advance of us going on
    the air, so everyone joining our team was sworn to
    secrecy. A website was developed but would not be launched
    until we were live and on the air within the DPRK. It was agreed
    that we would use the call sign P5DX.

  • Teil 2 des Statements (das Forum akzeptiert nur 10.000 Zeichen pro Post):


    Our last major hurdle was that the DPRK was asking for a very large
    fee to be paid for the permissions at various government levels and
    ministries to operate from within the DPRK. It is a very common
    practice for various governments throughout the world to request a fee
    to be paid for DXpedition permission and licensing. These fees are
    typically several thousand dollars in many Third World
    countries. As we would see, the DPRK fee would be
    considerably more.


    While still trying to keep everything a secret, the largeness of this
    fee required that we approach several of the biggest amateur radio
    foundations for financial grants to help us with our tremendous up-front
    costs.


    We also consulted with an international attorney who counseled us how
    to avoid becoming entangled in violations of the Foreign Corrupt
    Practices Act. Essentially, it is a serious crime for Americans to
    bribe foreign government officials. However, it is not a crime
    for Americans to be charged extra fees to visit a foreign country.
    All of our fees would be paid directly to a China-based tour company
    and no direct exchange would take place with the North Koreans.


    Given the outpouring of support that these amateur radio consortia
    had given to lesser-needed entities in the past, it never occurred to us
    that they would resist supporting a trip to P5. One organization
    actually said that we didn’t need their funding because we could charge
    whatever we wanted for the QSLs! It was a disheartening
    revelation that they seemed more interested in our ability to raise
    funds by charging high fees later for confirmation “because we can”
    rather than in assisting a major DXpedition that was in dire need of
    immediate pre-departure funding to pull it off. We later proposed
    that they merely pledge an amount to be donated if we were successful
    and our operation was accredited by the DXCC staff, thus giving them an
    easy way out if they were not pleased with our performance. This
    still did not sway them. Here we were, just a couple of weeks away
    from the first authorized multinational DXpedition from the world’s
    most needed country, and we were told we were on our own. I never
    thought it would come to this.


    I have tremendous respect for these organizations and I am deeply
    disappointed that they could not find a way to support our plans.


    This left my Co-Leader, David-K3LP and I no other recourse but to
    drain our own personal retirement savings to provide the bulk of our
    funding. In addition to our upfront license fees, we needed to buy
    radios, power supplies, coax, antennas and many more items. We
    purchased roughly $16,000 in equipment and we spent almost $4000 to ship
    it FedEx to Beijing to our staging area, where it still sits as I write
    this Blog.


    We continued to discreetly build our team. Many potential team
    members were not able to travel to the DPRK with such short notice,
    which was understandable. We worked very hard and we were glad
    that we were able to complete a final team of 14 very able operators by
    the time the deadline to apply for our DPRK visas was upon us. Our
    plans continued to come together and everyone booked their flights to
    Beijing. A hotel in China was secured for our pre-DXpedition
    briefings. Reservations with Air Koryo, the DPRK’s national
    airline, were made. Less than two weeks to go now. We were
    delighted that everyone seemed to respect our need for
    confidentiality. Nothing had been leaked.


    But that euphoria would not last. Much to our disappointment,
    April 19 featured the first of many betrayals of our trust when a
    blogger opined that he was “hearing rumblings of a P5 activation by 10
    US/EU Ops planned for May 2016”. Someone talked. These
    leaks came almost immediately after our attempts to recruit our team
    and to get grant funds, despite our repeated insistence that our plans
    not be made public. And soon the repercussions of that would
    unravel our plans and cost tens of thousands of DXers a possible contact
    with P5.


    Within a short time, we were contacted by numerous other amateur
    radio websites and bloggers asking if we were the ones involved in these
    rumors. We tried not to comment at all, but the rumors would not
    go away. Finally we admitted we might be making progress but
    begged for discretion, saying that negotiations were still ongoing and
    that one of the conditions of the trip was that we not go public until
    we were ready to go on the air. But in pursuit of their own
    interests in having a “scoop”, most re-published the unsubstantiated
    rumors and, as expected, this brought out the crazies and every armchair
    DXer with an opinion chimed in.


    One eHam commenter posted that if all, or some of us were to wind up
    in a North Korean gulag, that none of us would have his sympathy.
    We were powerless to act or respond and we kept our heads down and
    focused on moving forward. Within days, four of the leading Web
    and Email based DX news sources ran with the rumors, providing links to
    the original Blogger. All of this was in defiance of the directive of
    the DPRK officials that we make no pre-event publicity. All of this was
    working against our efforts.


    The Internet ramblings continued and more and more information was
    shared. Things began to spiral out of control. Impostors
    pirated my call sign and made numerous posts on DX Summit revealing more
    of our plans. I had to ask DX Summit to block the use of my call sign
    after that.


    On April 23, just a week before our departure to Beijing and then
    into Pyongyang, our Emissary traveled to Pyongyang to make final
    arrangements and obtain our visas. On April 24, our
    Emissary alerted us that all of the visas were approved with a
    couple notable exceptions, myself included.


    I will never know why my DPRK visa request was refused. I had
    been to the DPRK on two previous visits and everything was quite
    positive. It is possible that my pirated call-sign on DX Summit was seen
    by the DPRK authorities who may have viewed it as a violation of their
    trust and me not keeping quiet. But i feel I know where the real
    blame lies.


    As I was one of the team members bringing a significant amount of
    equipment to Beijing with me as well as providing a major portion of the
    upfront funding from my own personal savings, this proved to be an
    insurmountable problem. I could not devote a sizable chunk of my
    life savings for a project that I could no longer participate in.


    And since we received absolutely no financial support from the DX
    foundations we courted for funding despite our desperate pleas for
    assistance, we decided we had no choice but to cancel the P5DX
    DXpedition. We waited another 24 hours hoping for a miracle that
    would never come before finally sending word to Pyongyang to ask our
    Emissary to inform the DPRK officials of our decision to terminate the
    project.


    At this time, we have a significant amount of equipment waiting for
    us in Beijing that we shipped a few weeks ago and that would consume
    another several thousand dollars to ship back. We all have
    full-fare non-refundable flights that we have to cancel at considerable
    expense. The financial losses suffered by Intrepid DX and all of
    our team members are substantial.


    I can’t help but feel a tremendous sense of frustration that someone
    felt the need to betray our request for confidentiality by blabbing
    about our plans to others, and by those who published these rumors
    despite being told this would be counterproductive. I am also
    certain that if some of the large foundations that we had approached had
    funded our grant request, the remaining team members who already had
    visas cleared would have been able to continue on to the DPRK and
    conduct a successful CW/SSB/RTTY activation.


    Let me reiterate. We had permission. We had a team.
    We had all necessary equipment staged in Beijing. We had a venue
    in North Korea. We had flights and hotels to China and the DPRK
    confirmed.


    What we did not have was the support of those we asked to remain
    quiet, nor the support of anyone we asked for help with
    funding. This could have been a DXpedition for the record
    books.


    But now we will never know.


    What do you think?


    Paul N6PSE

  • Ich glaube es gibt weit wichtigeres als eine Amateurfunk-DX-Expedition nach P5, solange sich dort nichts an den Lebensumständen der "normalen" Menschen ändert. Aber das geht vielen Funkamateuren wohl am Ars... vorbei, Hauptsache ein Häkchen mehr in der DXCC-Liste und möglichst ein Full-Score in den Band-and-Mode-Slots.


    73 Thomas, DH1TS

  • Ich glaube es gibt weit wichtigeres als eine Amateurfunk-DX-Expedition nach P5, solange sich dort nichts an den Lebensumständen der "normalen" Menschen ändert. Aber das geht vielen Funkamateuren wohl am Ars... vorbei, Hauptsache ein Häkchen mehr in der DXCC-Liste und möglichst ein Full-Score in den Band-and-Mode-Slots.


    73 Thomas, DH1TS


    Anders herum kann man aber natürlich auch argumentieren, dass sich auch nichts an den Lebensumständen der Menschen dort ändert, wenn man diese Aktivität nicht durchführt. Nach Deiner Argumentation dürfte man also auch nicht nach Bangladesh, in den Jemen oder in viele afrikanische Staaten fahren. Selbst China ist, was die Umsetzung von Menschenrechtskonventionen betrifft, bestenfalls ein Dritte-Welt-Land. Dürfen wir deswegen keine chinesischen Funkamateure arbeiten?


    Sollte tatsächlich irgendwann eine P5-Aktivität stattfinden und gesetzt den Fall, Dir würde dieses Land noch fehlen. Würdest Du nicht auch mitrufen?

  • Ich würde im konkreten Fall den Expeditionsteilnehmern sogar strikt davon abraten, irgendwelche Maßnahmen zu setzen, die die Lebensumstände der einheimischen Bevölkerung verändern könnten: Es wäre vermutlich tödlich für sie oder würde zumindest in langjährige Haft und Zwangsarbeit münden!


    Nein - persönlich habe ich wenig Interesse daran, dieses Land zu arbeiten. Ich habe es zwar nicht, aber es fehlt mir auch nicht! (Bin kein Wettbewerbs-Typ!)


    73, OE5AKM

  • Ich würde im konkreten Fall den Expeditionsteilnehmern sogar strikt davon abraten, irgendwelche Maßnahmen zu setzen, die die Lebensumstände der einheimischen Bevölkerung verändern könnten: Es wäre vermutlich tödlich für sie oder würde zumindest in langjährige Haft und Zwangsarbeit münden!


    Nein - persönlich habe ich wenig Interesse daran, dieses Land zu arbeiten. Ich habe es zwar nicht, aber es fehlt mir auch nicht! (Bin kein Wettbewerbs-Typ!)


    73, OE5AKM



    Seit wann ist das denn der Fall Alfred Mateijka ?
    Ich erinnere dich mal an deinen von dir geschaffenen Funkwettbewerb und Funkbericht von aus einem KZ -Gelände heraus ! Das war sowas von geschmacklos und daneben
    Du bist bis jetzt aus jedem Amateurfunkforum geflogen !


    Hier fängt es auch wieder an.

  • Text von OE5AKM: https://oe5akm.tumblr.com/


    http://wo-in-linz.at/auskunft/alfred-mateja-4040-linz/


    Mit dem “draußen” im Titel meines Blogs hat es folgende Bewandtnis:
    Kurzwelle interessiert mich vergleichsweise wenig; dennoch habe ich mich von allem Anfang an und gegen heftige Anfeindungen für einen CW-prüfungsfreien Kurzwellenzugang stark gemacht: Stichwort No-Code International! Seit Jahren engagiere ich mich ebenso für eine gezielte Erweiterung (nicht Ablöse!) unseres Hobbys durch leitungsgebundene Signalübertragung (Internet). Das hat mir wüste Beschimpfungen und in einigen deutschen Amateurfunkforen sogar lebenslängliche Sperren eingebracht: Obiges anzudenken ist nämlich in den Augen vieler Funkamateure noch immer Hochverrat - zumindest aber off-topic! Und als dann noch ruchbar wurde, dass mich kommunikative, psychologische, soziale und politische Aspekte in unserem Hobbys mindestens ebenso interessieren wie technische, da war ich endgültig “draußen”!